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August 12, 2010
- Sandia's Suppliers and Their Profitability
- Determining How Sandia and Suppliers Can Lower Costs
- Identify Processes that will Allow the Supplier to Provide Best Value
Sandia's Suppliers and Their Profitability - Session 1 Documentation
Meeting Agenda
- Welcome and introductions.
- What types of processes or reviews are in place, to consider suppliers’ profitability?
- What do other organizations/companies you deal with do that makes you believe they are concerned about your profitability?
- Close.
A. What Types of Processes or Reviews are in Place, to Consider Suppliers’ Profitability?
- Payment terms (cash liquidity).
- Stewards of taxpayers’ money.
- It is mutually beneficial for our suppliers to remain profitable and to remain in business.
B. What do other Organizations/Companies you deal with do makes you believe they are concerned about your profitability?
- Abandon Reverse Auctions.
- Reverse auctions: Don’t set lower starting limit.
- Don’t re-negotiate after a reverse auction is won.
- Has Sandia benchmarked other organizations on reverse auctions?
- Do not ask for breakdown of costs on competitive Firm Fixed Price contracts. Doesn’t seem right.
- Contracts awarded on Multiplier only or Labor Rate only. No discussion of Profit. No discussion of Salaries. Award is on Low Bid.
- Have not been asked for a negotiated cost or profit for many years. Negotiate cost rates.
- Past experience: Periodic reviews of cost drivers with the purpose of mutual actions to improve business metrics for both parties.
- Leakage on contracts (TRUST).
- Four quotes at four different times, all with the same delivery date. Affects ability to schedule and also affects profits.
- Sandia is the only organization that asks for salary information.
- Concerned with being locked into T&M rates versus CPFF.
- Our company recommended a re-organization of management that saved NASA tons of bucks.
- Partner with vendors to get the most from relationships. Don’t just look to price.
- Discussion platform specific to products/services to focus on more strategic (economy of scale) purchases.
- Enable vendors to better support products -> badges, organization charts, sharing of funded projects.
- Establish set outreach/education series (e.g., L3 Utah supports/hosts monthly lunch and learn seminars).
- Better communication – respond to us!
- Back up personnel for SCRs and SDRs.
- Improve relationships between buyer and supplier. Respond quickly.
C. Parking Lot
- Define “Best Value”.
- Have more Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business Set Asides.
- Define/Utilize “Sealed Bid by Rank”.
- Provide contractors with a government card for receiving government rates at hotels when on official Sandia directed travel.
- The team evaluated the session and identified what went well, as well as what could be improved in another session.
- First time in 20 years, as a supplier to Sandia, that anyone has asked for this type of feedback.
Improvements
- Would like more time to discuss topics.
Determining How Sandia and Suppliers Can Lower Costs -- Session 2 Documentation
Meeting Agenda
- Welcome and introductions.
- Participant Expectations.
- Participant Expectations.
- What are some of the hindrances or barriers you feel you are encountering when you are trying to lower cost? (Current State)
- What can SNL do and what can you do to help lower costs? (Future State)
- Close.
A. Participants Expectations of the Break-out Session
- Building a bridge for better communication with small businesses. Especially in rural areas.
- Building relationships with mutual benefit.
- What does Sandia expect from suppliers?
- Clarification of expectations.
B. What are some of the hindrances or barriers you feel you are encountering when you are trying to lower cost? (Current State)
- This session is in response to statements received from the survey.
C. What can SNL do and what can you do to help lower costs? (Future State)
- Increase flexibility for companies to manage their employees.
- Reduce RFP requirements for benefits, etc.
- Has the process of selecting a supplier been streamlined?
- Electronic ordering.
- Electronic invoicing.
- Product promotion event.
- Reduce ES&H requirements.
- Need to give high visibility to what Sandia is buying so suppliers will know if they can provide service.
- Benefits requirements.
- Slow/resist technology ideas.
- Look at life cycle of cost of ownership.
- Same information verified over and over.
- Specialized equipment only used at Sandia.
- Need to know full requirements of audits. What can we do to be ready to save Sandia time?
- Level the playing field in answering RFP’s that we aren’t just filling the slots and the intention is to give the award to a specific company.
- Reverse auctions. Didn’t feel it was fair. And afterwards there were still negotiations.
- Decision is spread out over numerous organizations. Becomes a battle at year end when money is released. Not Strategic.
- Changing SCRs means having to re-learn contract. Adjust training for this.
- Use modern technology to facilitate correspondence, i.e., e-mail.
- Make attempts at more personal contact. This will improve customer relations.
- Convert website to a Portal, “Vendor Portal.”
- On-line list of all SCRs and SDRs by location and responsible products.
- Companies that supply Sandia should work together with others to learn how to service Sandia.
- Set up a Help Desk.
- Staffing – relax the benefits requirement.
- Send survey to supplier company so other key employees can be asked their opinions, as was asked at this meeting.
- What is the impact of rising costs on the sub?
- Lack of face-to-face debrief opportunity.
- Improve communications.
- Utilize off-site face-to-face debrief (IPOC).
- Physical walk-through of SOW wall all. Better idea of exactly what is needed.
- Need supplier orientation classes.
- Allow equipment subs.
- On-line resources – requirements; list of contacts.
Identify Processes that will Allow the Supplier to Provide Best Value -- Session 3 Documentation
Meeting Agenda
- Welcome and introductions.
- What does Sandia do to describe “Best Value”?
- What processes can Sandia create or enhance to assist suppliers in providing “Best Value”?
- Close.
A. What Does Sandia Do to describe “Best Value?”
- Brief definition of “Best Value”: Defined simply as the best bang for the buck.
- Problems seen by Sandia: 75% of received proposals do not make it past the first reading. 50% of proposals received are non compliant. 25% are compliant but not competitive.
- Discussion of the sample evaluation quotation instructions (handout).
- The sample criteria were distributed for participant comment.
- Collection of supplier input.
B. What Processes can Sandia create or enhance to assist suppliers in providing “Best Value?”
- Define criteria and how best value is defined.
- Consistent approach across buyers.
- Eliminate redundant or repetitive requirements.
- To help with Supplier Development, inform discarded proposal submittals of why they were discarded.
- Use clear, declarative sentences in RFQs.
- Break down evaluation of Price Proposals so that it is understood exactly how you will be scored if you not come in with the lowest bid.
- Provide objective criteria on how a better technical proposal can overcome a lower bid.
- Small business set asides, SDVOSB, 8(a), etc.
- Describe Quality Management System.
- How is Quality Measured?
- Ensure RFP is not a cut and Paste. Too often RFP has conflicting criteria or placement/layout of proposal information is duplicated.
- Allow suppliers to host a seminar/presentation to supplement their submitted proposal.
- Start with current/proven suppliers and extend capability.
- Have a place for questions/responses to solicitation.
- Breaking down proposal criteria into different categories based on type of service/materials that are provided!
- Have contractor complete a database of information to facilitate procurement. Oracle doesn’t cut it.
- Select pre-qualified companies for proposals.
- Follow the NASA Best Value approach
- Allow contractor to provide consistent pricing across all areas at Sandia, i.e., GSA pricing, published rates.
- Allow suppliers to submit electronically.
- Make smaller (price) value proposals simpler (or shorter).
- More RFQs.
- Provide more diversity for past experience. Small/young companies might be very capable, but are eliminated solely on lack of experience.
- Make it clear as to what you want. Price? Quality? Both?
- Are your requirements unreasonable? Eliminates small businesses?
- Clearly define requirements in the Request for Proposal.
- Clarify evaluation criteria and how it is weighted.
- Graded value for each criterion.
- Quantify relative weight between technical and price.
- Define Best Value NOW vs. what Best Value used to mean.
- Help suppliers truly understand Best Value.
- Provide True Clarity on Best Values, e.g., evaluation criteria spelled out clearly (weighting, etc.).
- Meaning of RFQ to missions.
- Related business value to Sandia.
- Define (in general) how value will be compared to cost.
- Weight criteria by importance.
- Define “Quality”.
- Sandia should figure out how to better partner with contractors to increase value on contracts.
- Dictate less specific terms (e.g., benefits) to suppliers – Then, let us respond to those that offer creativity and value – add solutions. Invite ideas. Mandate less.
- Better communicate w.r.t. status of evaluation/award.
- Provide an example with each request to show how it should be submitted.
- Industry Knowledge Buyers of solicited services.
- Buyer’s knowledge of contracts and timely responses.
- Talk to Top Two Bidders.
- Create a consistent approach to best value across all buyers.
- Check solicitation requirements for repetition.